Tribe.net. Local Connections Satan`s Circus http://germanhistory.tribe.net/thread/c2e06737-a02d-4c01-85b4-44dbac2c546d 2007-08-07T10:33:07Z 2006-05-07T03:48:31Z

<div>I recently read a book that dealt with the impact of <br/>the civil war on europe. It stated that the majority of <br/>people in france were pro confederate as well as <br/>the nobility, in england the regular folk were very <br/>pro union but the nobility were pro confederate. in <br/>germany it was the total opposite, the german <br/>people were pro union as well as the nobility. In <br/>fact the north raised money by selling bonds in <br/>germany. <br/> <br/>The book made the case that the reason that the <br/>german people were strong union supporters was <br/>that many germans immigrants wrote home in <br/>support of the union. but what the book didn`t say <br/>was why the german nobility were so strong in their <br/>support of the north, I realize that the french and <br/>english nobility felt a kinship for the southern aristocracy <br/>but why didn`t the german nobility feel the same way?</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://germanhistory.tribe.net">20th Century German History</a> - 5 replies </div>

Satan`s Circus 2006-05-07T03:48:31Z Swaz http://germanhistory.tribe.net/thread/cf5e0d31-b53b-49ef-b7f7-b43ffafba9d8 2007-08-07T10:27:53Z 2007-07-15T12:15:54Z

<div> <br/>Many people don't know this but we could have assassinated Hitler in 1944 before D-day but didn't because we assumed correctly that killing him would only prolong the war and that he would make a bunch of stupid mistakes and play right into our hands. <br/> <br/>We knew when he was at Berchtesgarden, when he took his daily walks, that he walked way out in front of his security detail because that was really the only time he had to himself, where to parachute in whithout detection, plans for escape. The whole shabang. <br/> <br/>People argued correctly that because of the way the German military command structure was set-up, if Hitler were kept in power, he would undoubtedly screw things up in favor of the Allies. Which is exactly what he did. <br/> <br/>He kept several panzer divisions at Calais for a week after Normandie. When he finally capitulated he didn't even release enough troops to get the job done, they were caught in the Falaise pocket and annihilated. He ordered that the best gun in the world, the shturmgivar not be made (but they made some anyway) he ordered that the ME 262 be used only for bombing until it was too late. Huge resources were put into the V-weapons but in the final result the cost per allied casualty was astronomical on an already strained economy. The battle of the Bulge, which drained other scarce men, materiel, and fuel. And probably dozens of other mistakes. <br/> <br/>So this begs the question: If we had asassinated him, do you think the war would have dragged on longer? Western doctors believed at the time that since he had both Parkensons disease and was an amphetamine addict, he would not have lived to see 1946 anyway. Would someone more competent stepped into his shoes after we killed him? Either Himmler or Goering, but Goering was a joke even to his peers. Heydrich was a shoe-in but was killed in 1942. Jodl? Bormann? Doenitz? Rommel? <br/> <br/>What are your thoughts on this story? <br/> <br/>Swaz <br/></div> <div> posted in <a href="http://germanhistory.tribe.net">20th Century German History</a> - 1 reply </div>

Swaz 2007-07-15T12:15:54Z Satan`s Circus http://germanhistory.tribe.net/thread/f0d74254-abe1-475d-a28e-6b772fcf7885 2007-07-20T15:50:00Z 2006-03-25T22:51:20Z

<div>Recently I read a biography on Rommel, it said he was from Swabia and <br/>that he was dark complected which was owed to his Swabian roots. <br/> <br/>Where is Swabia located? What is the Swabians Ancestry? <br/> <br/>Satan`s Circus</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://germanhistory.tribe.net">20th Century German History</a> - 15 replies </div>

Satan`s Circus 2006-03-25T22:51:20Z Swaz http://germanhistory.tribe.net/thread/9788df00-bc94-4dc0-a293-e3bc52ccde02 2007-07-02T22:16:06Z 2007-06-21T18:43:47Z

<div> <br/>I read something recently (somewhere) about a couple on German guns used in Russia during WW2. I had always thought that "The Paris gun" of WW1 was the biggest but this article claimed differently. <br/> <br/>There were several mentioned in the article, all mobile railway guns: <br/> <br/>1.) "Anzio Annie" which shelled the beach-head in Anzio, Sicily in 1943 and then backed into a railway tunnel to avoid detection from the air. <br/> <br/>2.) The "Thor" gun, which I think was more of a gigantic mortar used during the seige of Leningrad, 42-44? <br/> <br/>3.) The "Dora" gun. Used during the seige of Sabestapol in 1942-43? This last one was so fucking big as to defy logic. like the "Guns of Navarone" on wheels. From what I recall it took a whole train to make it, as it had to be assembled on site by a crew of 2500 soldiers. I don't remember the weight of the shells but they were absolutely massive. I also remember that it was more of a psycological warfare tool than anything else as it was fired less than a hundred times and was entirely impractical. <br/> <br/>Footnote: <br/> <br/>More recent history had the development of the HARP (High Altitude Research Project) gun in Canada by Gerald Bull. That was two WW2 16 inch naval guns attached end-to-end, and could send small packages into low-Earth orbit. (well so could the Paris gun) upon his assassination by the Israeli's in the 1990's he was working on a gun code-named Babylon that was to be put in a hollowed-out mountain and shot 300 miles into Israel. Then the Germans siezed the parts labled "Patroleum pipe". A scaled-down model of this was tested and DID work. <br/> <br/>I have also seen pictures of a gun Hitler was building when we over-ran France that was to bombard London. Except this gun used a whole series of flammable gas combustion chambers to move the projectile up the barrel. Some say it would have worked. <br/> <br/>The one thing I can say is that the Germans always had a fetish for size! <br/> <br/>Swaz <br/></div> <div> posted in <a href="http://germanhistory.tribe.net">20th Century German History</a> - 4 replies </div>

Swaz 2007-06-21T18:43:47Z Swaz http://germanhistory.tribe.net/thread/8eeadb8e-1f48-4b1b-a653-2336974553a4 2007-06-21T12:39:39Z 2007-05-11T04:45:57Z

<div> <br/>Mata Hari was a sexpionage spy for the Germans during WWI. Her beauty was such that after she was executed by firing squad, only three bullits were found to have struck her. Some of her executors couldn't bear to shoot her. A little from a trivia book I have. Anone else read much about her life? She was a very intriguing woman. <br/> <br/>Swaz</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://germanhistory.tribe.net">20th Century German History</a> - 3 replies </div>

Swaz 2007-05-11T04:45:57Z Laevatein http://germanhistory.tribe.net/thread/a3ea6d88-a634-4ec4-a7d2-81ef8a89bd5c 2007-02-06T20:19:08Z 2006-07-23T18:51:13Z

<div>Unlike the Japanese, German/American Citizens were sent <br/>back (during the war) in exchange for non-germanic American <br/>citizens. I live close to one of those camps, here in the US. <br/>They were sent back, some not knowing the language, and <br/>but in harms way. <br/> <br/>La Tuna Canyon in Southern California was an INS camp. <br/>In American history, you'll never be told that this ever happened. <br/> <br/>There are a few good books on this subject, but I reccoment <br/>'Invisible Internment.' <br/> <br/>Sorry, I don't have the ISBN handy.</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://germanhistory.tribe.net">20th Century German History</a> - 3 replies </div>

Laevatein 2006-07-23T18:51:13Z ApmasterSite http://germanhistory.tribe.net/thread/6fdb8c49-9e18-40c2-8fcf-0dafeecdefc1 2007-01-21T01:04:32Z 2006-05-09T01:33:40Z

<div>hey guys whats up <br/> <br/>Seeing this is also kinda historical, i think my site has some German History. I think you guys should check it out. The site is http://www.apmastersite.us.tc and if you like it please feel free to come by neverstudy.com and post a comment or come by my tribe and post a comment. <br/> <br/>ty <br/> <br/>http://people.tribe.net/apmastersite</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://germanhistory.tribe.net">20th Century German History</a> - 1 reply </div>

ApmasterSite 2006-05-09T01:33:40Z Patrick http://germanhistory.tribe.net/thread/77a33bde-d670-4278-bf8e-8ceb32ae6146 2006-10-13T16:08:28Z 2006-10-13T16:08:28Z

<div>I know it's a fairly small historical niche, but I've been studying Zeppelin history for about 30 years now (more seriously for about the past 10-15) and was wondering if anyone else hereabouts was into it as well. Hindenburg disaster aside, the Germans certainly had the rest of the world beat hands-down in terms of engineering and operational expertise when it came to the big old rigid airships.</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://germanhistory.tribe.net">20th Century German History</a> - 0 replies </div>

Patrick 2006-10-13T16:08:28Z angus http://germanhistory.tribe.net/thread/bc0c980e-f02b-43f0-9423-da20cb5ab7f7 2006-08-31T14:03:11Z 2006-08-08T22:26:20Z

<div>Hey all, <br/>A seemingly simple fact, but one that I can not find anywhere: What percentage of the surface of the earth was controlled by the Axis at its zenith? I'll take just the European total but would prefer the area controlled by Imperial Japan as well. <br/>Thanks!</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://germanhistory.tribe.net">20th Century German History</a> - 6 replies </div>

angus 2006-08-08T22:26:20Z Michael http://germanhistory.tribe.net/thread/b14cf2cf-490b-4f00-9b83-322075774a92 2006-05-15T09:10:33Z 2006-05-15T04:13:20Z

<div>Anybody read this book by William Stevenson? It's absolutely intriguing.</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://germanhistory.tribe.net">20th Century German History</a> - 1 reply </div>

Michael 2006-05-15T04:13:20Z Satan`s Circus http://germanhistory.tribe.net/thread/d45ba080-bd70-4ade-9411-34bc83353fb6 2006-04-29T01:49:32Z 2006-04-28T05:03:22Z

<div>I`m interested to know if anyone has ever heard of <br/>a wermacht general named Reymann, I think, but <br/>am not sure that he was in france during the normandy <br/>invasion. Does anyone know if he was from Gau-Bickelheim?</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://germanhistory.tribe.net">20th Century German History</a> - 3 replies </div>

Satan`s Circus 2006-04-28T05:03:22Z zargon http://germanhistory.tribe.net/thread/39b430ea-8902-4c32-a8ca-b35970b5242b 2005-06-24T19:44:14Z 2005-06-24T19:44:14Z

<div>I'm about to start a war game.Middle east theatre.Anyone interested in joining in?</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://germanhistory.tribe.net">20th Century German History</a> - 0 replies </div>

zargon 2005-06-24T19:44:14Z zargon http://germanhistory.tribe.net/thread/f479d908-3476-4a77-98ae-9659be6ca68b 2005-06-21T01:24:03Z 2005-05-31T12:57:19Z

<div>Hello. Does anyone know where the grand nephew of the late <br/>Kaiser Wilhem 11,the cousin of the late King George V is living now? and the surface pressure on the planet mars ?and do you want to win $5million US dollars? over.</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://germanhistory.tribe.net">20th Century German History</a> - 3 replies </div>

zargon 2005-05-31T12:57:19Z Satan`s Circus http://germanhistory.tribe.net/thread/3a6e1090-ffd8-47ed-9929-9fa913dba829 2005-06-06T22:56:41Z 2005-04-21T00:24:49Z

<div>I`m currently reading a book on the battle of <br/>Chattanooga called "The Shipwreck of their <br/>Hopes" and in it a confederate soldier who was <br/>trying to flee after they were routed at Missionary <br/>Ridge ran into a unit of union troops that only <br/>spoke german and he thought "My God we`re <br/>fighting the world" They come from germany and <br/>they fight for the stars and stripes, Why? <br/> <br/>I always wondered about that myself, what would <br/>possess a man to come here and fight, especially <br/>if some of these men were tired of the fighting in <br/>germany! I realize there are no clear cut answers <br/>as to why, but I`d be interested to know if anyone <br/>has any thoughts on this?</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://germanhistory.tribe.net">20th Century German History</a> - 4 replies </div>

Satan`s Circus 2005-04-21T00:24:49Z Satan`s Circus http://germanhistory.tribe.net/thread/49f50412-ad53-41fb-963c-b993097bd87b 2005-03-27T18:47:16Z 2005-03-19T07:44:53Z

<div>While I have various interests in history my <br/>main passion is researching and writing on <br/>various local breweries. While researching <br/>I`ve came across many german brewers <br/>and while most never gave a reason for <br/>coming to America, I have found that a <br/>few had fled germany for economic reasons <br/>or to escape fighting. <br/> <br/>The story of the Best family I thought interesting, <br/>they founded what became the Pabst brewing co. <br/>they left germany because they were more liberal <br/>than most and found the climate there stifling if <br/>not dangerous. <br/> <br/>Now from the few books i`ve read that touched on <br/>the society of germany during the mid to late 1800`s <br/>it left me with the impression that germany was a <br/>very conservative, even militaristic culture. Am I far <br/>off the mark with my assumptions? would a german <br/>that was liberal be considered dangerous? I`d love <br/>to hear some thoughts on this subject!!!!</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://germanhistory.tribe.net">20th Century German History</a> - 3 replies </div>

Satan`s Circus 2005-03-19T07:44:53Z Satan`s Circus http://germanhistory.tribe.net/thread/39531a83-5915-475e-ae5a-c0d4db4e75b2 2005-03-27T07:13:23Z 2005-01-27T04:29:10Z

<div>Hey Guys, I just joined and I figure this <br/>question might be better asked here than on <br/>the the history forums. I read a book a few <br/>years ago on the Battle of Berlin, in it I read <br/>about this German General named Gotthard <br/>Heinrici. I have found basic profiles of him <br/>online and all the biographys on him seem to <br/>be in german, does anyone know of a book <br/>on him in english? </div> <div> posted in <a href="http://germanhistory.tribe.net">20th Century German History</a> - 4 replies </div>

Satan`s Circus 2005-01-27T04:29:10Z